Points Revamp

[Moonbear]

http://imgur.com/Y8tj7hK.png


I have a thread regarding them (CLICK HERE (http://www.gta-sarp.com/forums/showthread.php?269074-Points-Revamp)) although I decided to announce here as well. Sparke and I have decided to implement points in the upcoming update, version 3.7.5 which will take place this Friday. Basic stuff regarding the system:

Dynamic system (points can be created, edited and deleted in-game).
User-friendly, understandable and cool features (listed below).
Dynamic loading & saving for the points.
In-game points rules.
Killer of the current person who attempts to capture receives $5,000.
Died in range of point warning: if enabled for the point by the admins/developers, people will be informed if they die in range of a point. This is to prevent people from entering a point and getting killed (claiming it was DM).
Default points - each point will eventually get a purpose, right now only 3 of them do.
Points' have better purposes and money received - if you capture/kill the capturer, you receive money.
No need to wait for R5+ anymore! /capture is now for R3+ (since it can't be abused and only benefits the family I made it that way).


Default points:
Right now we got 2 materials pickups. If your family holds one of them and you mat run using that pickup you will receive +100 materials in addition.

I also made the drugs factory:
Note: This isn't the real location where the drugs factory will be, and the timers (i.e 10 minutes to /capture) are reduced for testing purposes.
https://imgur.com/p9Ni0aG.png


Basically the drugs factory point has the ability to receive 50g of Cannabis, Meth or Cocaine (per time, means a family must /capture and succeed in order to /claimpointdrugs, can be used once per /capture). The drugs which you will receive are completely random (to avoid people taking the best one which obviously makes the others useless).


Once /captured, 12 hours must pass (each point and its own time) to be able to take it over again.

I will leave this one open for suggestions and opinions.

[Sean Johnson]

amazing

can public fams attend?

[Moonbear]

amazing

can public fams attend?

Pretty sure yes, if Bella doesn't say otherwise.

[JackTheRipper]

Thanks moonbear

[Jasper Harrison]

I think that it will be good. btw, can you increase the mats?, like +150-200 per 1 run.

[Nazario]

I think that it will be good. btw, can you increase the mats?, like +150-200 per 1 run.

For me, 100 is enough.

[Mad Lord Malone]

I think that it will be good. btw, can you increase the mats?, like +150-200 per 1 run.

This isn't needed as this as 250 materials are the base. Getting 400-450 materials each run is just a bit too much for a small increase as it's nearly doubled

[.357]

For me, 100 is enough.

It might be enough for you but not for a newbie you twat.

[Moonbear]

Next update:
Timer for the person who last did /capture to get the point. It will show up every minute (i.e if 8 minutes left, it will display "8 minutes left", not every second though). If the time is less than one minute, it will display it in seconds (will update every 5 seconds or so).
https://imgur.com/d8zuHsD.png

Soon:
Being able to edit a point's borders in-game.
https://imgur.com/H6U9ZgV.png

[Psychologist]

Can SAPD participate to stop the gangs from geting points?

[Hobbs]

Can SAPD participate to stop the gangs from geting points?

No.

[Luka Hawthorne]

Can SAPD participate to stop the gangs from geting points?

Can you get a brain transplant?

[Moonbear]

It'd be cool if we had a more clear script way of dealing with the complex rules of points. Maybe an outline saying where you can/can't shoot?

We are updating soon:
Dynamic, editable in-game borders
Dynamic point rules (we can add, edit and delete the rules in-game)

Expect both next update ^^

[Assertion]

Amazing, definitely looking forward to this!

[Psychologist]

Can you get a brain transplant?

SAPD should have some ooc fun too. Not only your britgang

[Kamil Worach]

Can you get a brain transplant?

Don't see why SAPD shouldn't be able to get involved. Points will create illegal items ICly so its in the police's best interest to prevent this from happening is it not?

[Elektra Natchios]

Can you get a brain transplant?

Lol, that's not even in practice nowadays.


Don't see why SAPD shouldn't be able to get involved. Points will create illegal items ICly so its in the police's best interest to prevent this from happening is it not?

I agree with you, as long cops won't be 'camping' there or puting roadblocks etc. If they would have somehow the same advantages as fams (not camping, sniping, etc) I think will be nice, so everyone can RP. Seems unrealistic that cops would know something illegal is happening right there and would have to just stand up and stare at it not being able to do anything(?)

[Luka Hawthorne]

Lol, that's not even in practice nowadays.



I agree with you, as long cops won't be 'camping' there or puting roadblocks etc. If they would have somehow the same advantages as fams (not camping, sniping, etc) I think will be nice, so everyone can RP. Seems unrealistic that cops would know something illegal is happening right there and would have to just stand up and stare at it not being able to do anything(?)

Points were, have, are and will always (hopefully) be exclusively OOC. Psychologist's idea (to allow LEOs to participate in them) is absolutely horrendous. And you're no better either, think about it. Points are a form of OOC entertainment for the families. They were never designated to be IC. Quit trying to fix what's not broken.

[mrpeepee]

Points were, have, are and will always (hopefully) be exclusively OOC. Psychologist's idea (to allow LEOs to participate in them) is absolutely horrendous. And you're no better either, think about it. Points are a form of OOC entertainment for the families. They were never designated to be IC. Quit trying to fix what's not broken. How different are LEOs from families when it comes to being OOC?
How are points designed for OOC, but LEOs cannot participate in them?

Points should be allowed for LEO as well because of the fact points are Out Of Character. LEOs should not be restricted from OOC points, because of their IC role.

[mrpeepee]

Points were, have, are and will always (hopefully) be exclusively OOC. Psychologist's idea (to allow LEOs to participate in them) is absolutely horrendous. And you're no better either, think about it. Points are a form of OOC entertainment for the families. They were never designated to be IC. Quit trying to fix what's not broken.
My bad I misunderstood what you were saying, you're right I agree with you. However I think Points should be remodeled since they are OOC. The families should not be able to get anything from them. Actually, points should just be taken away and let them use paintball for that. Otherwise if families continue to get IC rewards for OOC, points will need to become IC and police involved

[Luka Hawthorne]

My bad I misunderstood what you were saying, you're right I agree with you. However I think Points should be remodeled since they are OOC. The families should not be able to get anything from them. Actually, points should just be taken away and let them use paintball for that. Otherwise if families continue to get IC rewards for OOC, points will need to become IC and police involved

They do receive IC rewards for them, however, a rule is in place to control their IC income from them. 3 points at a time is not bad at all, and how much could you really earn from 3 points anyway? Good point, nonetheless.

[J]

Points were, have, are and will always (hopefully) be exclusively OOC. Psychologist's idea (to allow LEOs to participate in them) is absolutely horrendous. And you're no better either, think about it. Points are a form of OOC entertainment for the families. They were never designated to be IC. Quit trying to fix what's not broken.

Sweety did make points IC and I have to say, it was the most fun I've ever had on this server. We peaked 200 players because of it too. Maybe they can return I'm the future, but for now, we'll let the nostalgia of OOC points kick in again since it's been months. Not sure if you were inactive when points were made IC though.

[mrpeepee]

Sweety did make points IC and I have to say, it was the most fun I've ever had on this server. We peaked 200 players because of it too. Maybe they can return I'm the future, but for now, we'll let the nostalgia of OOC points kick in again since it's been months. Not sure if you were inactive when points were made IC though.
Why were they reverted from IC then if players enjoyed it?

If points do become IC I fear players will create a cops vs robbers atmosphere. I guess the only way to prevent that is educating players on how to properly play a role.

[Elektra Natchios]

Points were, have, are and will always (hopefully) be exclusively OOC. Psychologist's idea (to allow LEOs to participate in them) is absolutely horrendous. And you're no better either, think about it. Points are a form of OOC entertainment for the families. They were never designated to be IC. Quit trying to fix what's not broken.

'Psychologist's idea (to allow LEOs to participate in them) is absolutely horrendous.' @ LOL wtf, are you on something?

'And you're no better either, think about it' @ Who is even talking about me? I didn't, so why are you then?

Conclusion: You just answered to answer something, because it doesn't make sense what you said, psychologist + LEO + im no better + points + OOC = wtf?

If points are OOC for families, it can be an OOC matter also for others that's what I said. And if it's IC anytime, other factions can participate too as long everyone has the same rules and no advantages over other. Simple.

[Melancani]

'Psychologist's idea (to allow LEOs to participate in them) is absolutely horrendous.' @ LOL wtf, are you on something?

'And you're no better either, think about it' @ Who is even talking about me? I didn't, so why are you then?

Conclusion: You just answered to answer something, because it doesn't make sense what you said, psychologist + LEO + im no better + points + OOC = wtf?

If points are OOC for families, it can be an OOC matter also for others that's what I said. And if it's IC anytime, other factions can participate too as long everyone has the same rules and no advantages over other. Simple.

The reason ooc points were brought back was to give families some exclussive playing enviroments, to promote gangs.

If we let factions join in, the advantage of being in a fam would result to null.

This is also the reason why I cater to fams being the only ones participating in points.

[Dragus Armarti]

moonbear improved sarpe af tbh

[Jasper Harrison]

moonbear improved sarpe af tbh

Yes, he is going to add/get back some awesome jobs.

[BradPair]

Yes, he is going to add/get back some awesome jobs.

Let's see.

[Melancani]

Let's see.

Not really the topic of discussion, but smuggler is already back.

[Jasper Harrison]

it's a nice system but, I think that it would be better of cops can effect this and try to stop the families from capturing points, would make it better instead of being useless.

[BradPair]

Not really the topic of discussion, but smuggler is already back.

Lmao, alright...
By the way I'm not ..

[Bella]

amazing

can public fams attend?

I'm working on strict guidelines for public families that we may use for points in the future, for now public families can NOT participate in points.